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M.L West has always been interested in how myths were shared across the Classical world In the 1990s, he wrote a monograph titled The East Face of Helicon on how Greek epic drew heavily from the Near East Thinking about what the Greek tradition kept from the Indo European heritage common to many cultures of Europe and Asia led him to this much vaster project Indo European Poetry and Myth aims to synthesize and extend research on what aspects of the literature of antiquity and even the Lith M.L West has always been interested in how myths were shared across the Classical world In the 1990s, he wrote a monograph titled The East Face of Helicon on how Greek epic drew heavily from the Near East Thinking about what the Greek tradition kept from the Indo European heritage common to many cultures of Europe and Asia led him to this much vaster project Indo European Poetry and Myth aims to synthesize and extend research on what aspects of the literature of antiquity and even the Lithuanian and Latvian songs collected in the early modern era go back to Indo European times.The opening two chapters cover Indo European poetry, revealing common poetic metaphors and principles of versification from Ireland to India The bulk of the work, however, consists of comparisons of the mythologies of the Indo European peoples, which West treats exhaustively with each chapter divided into a myriad of subthemes For example, chapter 5 Sun and Daughter consists of the following sections The divine Sun The Sun as a deity Attributes the all seeing god Oaths by the Sun The Sun s motion conceptualized The solar wheel The solar steed s The solar boat The dark side of the sun How old is all this Further mythical motifs Cultic observance Salutation of the rising and setting sun A taboo Dawn and Night Attributes imagery Dawn s lovers The Dawn goddess and the spring festival The Daughter of the Sun The Vedic evidence The Baltic and Slavic evidence The Greek evidence Daughters of the Sun in other traditions Astronomical interpretations Ritual aspects Conclusion.Because the subject is explored so exhaustively and the presentation is so dense, very few are going to read the whole thing I have been keenly interested in Indo European linguistics for years, but even I found myself skimming a few parts However, there s no denying that the book brings together in a single volume all the divergent research going on among specialists in the various languages But the great flaw of this text is that it is too much a collection of earlier work on the subject, and thus reflects much speculation that has been overturned by later research For example, West links a number of Greek words to Sanskrit or Iranian words, but Beekes recent work shows these Greek words to be borrowings from the Pre Greek substrate language and not inherited from Indo European Indeed, Beekes has conclusively shown that Pre Greek was non Indo European, but West at one point even incorporates into the text the obsolete idea that Greece was inhabited by another Indo European people before the Greeks, the old Pelasgian hypothesis So, I can recommend this to readers with an interest in the subject, but be prepared to take everything with a grain of salt orA second edition with acritical approach would do much to remedy this infelicity Breathtaking erudition, delivered in a readable style West has set himself to trace out the features of Indo European poetry and myth from the preliterate period, using a method akin to stemmatics in textual criticism or to historical linguistic reconstructions As a classicist, I particularly enjoyed the connections with literatures of cultures other than Greece and Rome Ireland, Germany, Armenia, India, Old English, etc It is rather staggering to think of someone knowing all these language Breathtaking erudition, delivered in a readable style West has set himself to trace out the features of Indo European poetry and myth from the preliterate period, using a method akin to stemmatics in textual criticism or to historical linguistic reconstructions As a classicist, I particularly enjoyed the connections with literatures of cultures other than Greece and Rome Ireland, Germany, Armenia, India, Old English, etc It is rather staggering to think of someone knowing all these languages, let alone having enough familiarity with the various epics to produce a book of this sort.The warning in one of the other reviews below is accurate you won t get the most out of the book unless you already know a good deal of mythology and preferably some classical languages While West is scrupulous to translate the Old Irish, Sanskrit, Armenian, and other less commonly studied tongues, he frequently leaves Greek and Latin untranslated absolutely vast amount of information presented in an organized way fairly critical of a lot of the weaker inferences and leaps that have been made before in talking about PIE Dumezil, lol even though he makes a few bizarre ones himself but then again the tone is measured enough that it never feels like he s pushing any interpretation of the often scant lines of evidence down your throat it s an endlessly interesting topic even in the details so the lack of an overall synthetic thesis did absolutely vast amount of information presented in an organized way fairly critical of a lot of the weaker inferences and leaps that have been made before in talking about PIE Dumezil, lol even though he makes a few bizarre ones himself but then again the tone is measured enough that it never feels like he s pushing any interpretation of the often scant lines of evidence down your throat it s an endlessly interesting topic even in the details so the lack of an overall synthetic thesis didn t really bother me Feelslike a personal reference work documenting a few decades of casual research than a book synthesizing information in a meaningful way Haphazard structure aside, West systematically refuses to look at the context of neighbouring non IE societies to determine which features are genetically Indo European and which are areal borrowings, rendering any pretense at reconstruction suspect The result is a work that, for all its exhausting length, can never be muchthan frustratingly shal Feelslike a personal reference work documenting a few decades of casual research than a book synthesizing information in a meaningful way Haphazard structure aside, West systematically refuses to look at the context of neighbouring non IE societies to determine which features are genetically Indo European and which are areal borrowings, rendering any pretense at reconstruction suspect The result is a work that, for all its exhausting length, can never be muchthan frustratingly shallow.PS writing Greek in the Greek alphabet is fine, especially considering that West calls himself a professional Hellenist Not writing Gothic in the Gothic alphabet is also perfectly fine, and transcribing as gg instead of themeaningful ng is certainly defensible Writing Latin with every v replaced with u as if the last two millennia of Latin conventions didn t happen is beyond obnoxious, and obscures both meaning and etymology.PPS West lists the distinguishable branches of literate Germanic poetic tradition as Old High German, Old Saxon, Old English, and Old Norse, and the next time I m in England I m going to pee on his grave [ FREE DOWNLOAD ] ☸ Indo-European Poetry and Myth ♷ The Indo Europeans, speakers of the prehistoric parent language from which most European and some Asiatic languages are descended, most probably lived on the Eurasian steppes some five or six thousand years ago Martin West investigates their traditional mythologies, religions, and poetries, and points to elements of common heritage In The East Face of Helicon, West showed the extent to which Homeric and other early Greek poetry was influenced by Near Eastern traditions, mainly non Indo European His new book presents a foil to that work by identifying elements of ancient, Indo European heritage in the Greek material Topics covered include the status of poets and poetry in Indo European societies metre, style, and diction gods and other supernatural beings, from Father Sky and Mother Earth to the Sun god and his beautiful daughter, the Thunder god and other elemental deities, and earthly orders such as Nymphs and Elves the forms of hymns, prayers, and incantations conceptions about the world, its origin, mankind, death, and fate the ideology of fame and of immortalization through poetry the typology of the king and the hero the hero as warrior, and the conventions of battle narrative La source blanche : L'étonnante histoire des dialogues avec l'Ange speakers of the prehistoric parent language from which most European and some Asiatic languages are descended Le sourire à visage humain : Suivi de Citoyen, citoyenneté et Encore plus de plus most probably lived on the Eurasian steppes some five or six thousand years ago Martin West investigates their traditional mythologies Soigner les plantes par les huiles essentielles et les huiles végétales religions Préparation aux examens de coiffure CAP : Sciences et technologie and poetries Joyeux anniversaire - Livre d'or à écrire - 18 ans - taille M - Violet and points to elements of common heritage In The East Face of Helicon Le Démon et mademoiselle Prym West showed the extent to which Homeric and other early Greek poetry was influenced by Near Eastern traditions ECG en pratique courante : Situation clinique, examen, commentaire mainly non Indo European His new book presents a foil to that work by identifying elements of ancient La planète aux vents de folie (La romance de Ténébreuse, tome 1) Indo European heritage in the Greek material Topics covered include the status of poets and poetry in Indo European societies metre Mes 9 Procédés Secrets Pour Accroître l'Autonomie Affective (2ième Édition) style Mes 9 Procédés Secrets Pour Accroître l'Autonomie Affective (2ième Édition) style Beyond Tomorrow from Father Sky and Mother Earth to the Sun god and his beautiful daughter Beyond Tomorrow the Thunder god and other elemental deities Les requins sont-ils des fossiles vivants ? L'évolution des poissons cartilagineux and earthly orders such as Nymphs and Elves the forms of hymns LA COMMUNICATION SOUS UNIX. Applications réparties, 2ème édition prayers L’Identité de la France (Tome 2) - Les hommes et les choses I and incantations conceptions about the world Xenogears Perfect Works its origin Xenogears Perfect Works: The Real Thing mankind Encyclopédie illustrée des dinosaures et animaux préhistoriques death Soeur Marie-Marthe Chambon et les saintes plaies de Jésus and fate the ideology of fame and of immortalization through poetry the typology of the king and the hero the hero as warrior Adrien Et Super-A Cuisinent Et Aiment Autrement: Lecons de Vie Pour Enfants Avec Autisme Ou Tdah and the conventions of battle narrative Author describes himself as a stranger in Paradise with a clipboard Aye, and for 100 bucks, I wish this read better than a well ordered file cabinet Anyway, someone had to venture forth to try and make sense of it all LIST of parallels at end of back DJ blurb It s very good although like all IE poetics it s very obscure and technical in lots of places, as well as not really as elucidating as one might hope If you re not interested in the specifics of his arguments you can reasonably skim the first sentences of each paragraph before he lists various passages from various cultures as evidence, which I did for the final chapter on heroic warfare as I didn t really care much for it He has a healthy skepticism of any real total IE religious reconstructi It s very good although like all IE poetics it s very obscure and technical in lots of places, as well as not really as elucidating as one might hope If you re not interested in the specifics of his arguments you can reasonably skim the first sentences of each paragraph before he lists various passages from various cultures as evidence, which I did for the final chapter on heroic warfare as I didn t really care much for it He has a healthy skepticism of any real total IE religious reconstruction beyond a few particulars common to nearly every culture and I think it s important to keep in mind that the most prodigious texts are from Greeks and Aryans, both the oldest well attested branches of IE as well as closely related to each other in their own right All in all it s quite interesting, especially the chapters Sun and Daughter and Poet and Poesy, as well as Kings and Heroes The breadth and depth of information is great My only complaint is the structure I didn t come away with it with a comprehensive overview of the material I would have preferred to have it organizedlike a story, or at least a concluding chapter that ties everything together It s still fine as a reference work, it s just not as interesting or effective as it could have been. A lot of this is a real stretch but no less fun for that. This is one of my grab when the house is burning down books Must have.